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   Posted by Steve Kaminsky on 10/08/02 at 4:34 PM

Subject:   A4 won't idle....


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In Reply to: A4 won't idle.... posted by Vic Candia on 10/05/02 at 12:50 AM:

Vic:

Below, after my comments, is an answer to someone's query to Don Moyer, taken from his website (www.moyermarine.com).

I would first check the firing order of the spark plugs which should be 1-2-4-3.

Since you removed the carburetor to rebuild it I would also check to see if perhaps there is air leaking around the carburetor/intake manifold area. If the gasket is missing or crimped in some way it could be creating a "lean" fuel situation.

Good Luck,
Steve

ANSWER: This condition is usually the result of low power caused by something that was done incorrectly during recent engine maintenance. The reason the engine seems to run better in reverse is because the reverse mode has a 1.7 to 1 gear reduction.

Here are some examples of maintenance problems that we've heard about:

Three to five times each year, spark plug leads were found to be installed in an improper sequence following a tune up! Cylinders 2 and 3 can apparently be reversed, and the engine will run fairly well in neutral, but will have practically no power in forward. According to one caller, his plug wires were reversed for an entire season before he found the cause of his power loss.

Another recent maintenance "oops" involved a minor repair of the exhaust system which required that the manifold be removed. On reinstallation, the old gasket was improperly installed resulting in intake leaks and very poor power under load.

Assuming that there was absolutely nothing done to the engine since it was last running OK, check the following areas for potential problems:

1) Check for something hanging on to the prop.

2) Check basic integrity of the engine by a quick compression check. For the purpose of diagnosing a major power loss, a simple check using your thumb over each spark plug hole is more than adequate. If your compression is sufficient so as to make it impossible for you to hold your thumb over each spark plug hole while cranking the engine with the starter, the cause of your power loss is not a major mechanical failure. If compression is weak in two adjacent cylinders, or water is observed in any of the combustion chambers, the head gasket has probably failed. If compression is "zero" in any of the cylinders, a valve has probably stuck open. If you are using a compression gauge, compression values over 80 psi are considered adequate.

3) Check for proper carburetor function. Normally, an Atomic 4 will accelerate almost "explosively" as you flick the throttle forward. If there is any hesitation or mild backfiring, a lean condition caused by dirt in the main jet is the most frequent cause. In most cases, a problem related to a fuel issue will manifest itself in neutral as well as in forward, but in mild cases, a lean condition might be missed in neutral, but will surely show up under load.

4) Check for proper ignition. As in the case of subtle lean fuel mixtures, there are subtle ignition problems that can show up under load but not necessarily in neutral. In this category, plug condition is the best indicator. If one plug is noticeably blacker (or oilier) than the rest, look for the relatively few things that can affect only one plug, such as the plug itself, the plug lead, or a cracked distributor cap. If all the plugs are badly fouled, check things that can affect all plugs, such as a lose condenser, badly worn points, shorting coil (or oil leaking from the coil), cracked distributor cap, or a bad coil lead.



  

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